March 15, 2022

US Congressman on AUKUS Sub Construction & Training

Seapower Magazine, of the Navy League of the US, reported in part, March 11, 2022:  

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Navy new submarine construction is on track, members of the Submarine Industrial Base Council were told by federal lawmakers during a visit to Washington.

Virginia-class submarines and the new Columbia class are moving forward, thanks in part to the efforts of the council, said Rep. Joe Courtney (D-Connecticut), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee’s Seapower and Projection Forces subcommittee and co-chair of the Submarine Caucus. [He reported]

“...full funding for two per year for Virginia, and the eye-watering progress with Columbia.”  

Courtney [whose district includes the General Dynamics Electric Boat Shipyard in Groton, Connecticuttalked about the importance of maintaining a high-tempo submarine production rate, possibly going even higher. He mentioned the aspirational goal of three Virginia-class Block V submarines per year, which his committee approved. 

AUKUS Opportunity 

In addition to U.S. submarine programs, Courtney said the Australia-U.S.-U.K nuclear submarine program called AUKUS will also provide opportunities for American companies. By law, sharing nuclear technology with other nations must be approved by Congress, something that was done for the United Kingdom in 1958, and will be required for Australia — Courtney said he’s confident that will happen. 

AUKUS will be a huge program and a boon to Australia’s industrial base, he said. But Courtney, who also chairs the Friends of Australia Caucus, said some of that capability and capacity will need to be provided here in the U.S. 

Australia is an incredible ally. But it isn’t reasonable to expect that a country of 30 million people can do it all by themselves. The spirit is there, but it’s probably a reach that they just can’t get to with their own indigenous workforce,” he said. 

While the technicalities of an agreement with Australia need to be worked out, Courtney said it is his personal opinion that Australian naval officers should already be training at the Nuclear Power School in Charleston, South Carolina. 

“They have good submariners, but they’re obviously familiar with diesel electrics, and they need to start getting people over to South Carolina and connected with the system,” he said. “You can’t just snap your fingers and have nuclear trained submariners.”     

Budget Issues 

Rep. Elaine Luria (D-Virginia), vice chair of the House Armed Services Committee and the Seapower and Projection Forces and Readiness subcommittees...represents the Hampton Roads area, which conducts 25% of the shipbuilding and repair in the United States.    

..Luria also followed up on Courtney’s remarks about the AUKUS nuclear submarine program. 

“It’s a huge opportunity. It’s also a huge risk. If you think about it, it’s a huge message to the Chinese. It’s a message to the Chinese that we are collaborating with Australia — that the U.S., Britain and Australia are cooperating, we’re building nuclear submarines, and we’re going to have this presence in the Pacific.” 

Luria told the industry representatives they will be part of that effort to develop the plan and deliver support to Australia to build those submarines. The risk lies in the size of the project, she said. 

“As you know, there is not the infrastructure, the training or the industrial base within Australia to just start from scratch and build a nuclear submarine program akin to what either we or the British have,” she said.   

China Deterrent 

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Alabama), the ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, told the attendees about the importance of the Indo-Pacific region and the need for the nation to build a modern, credible deterrence to counter ongoing Chinese aggression [said]...China is rapidly growing and modernizing its navy. 

“Our fleet of 296 ships has already been eclipsed by the Chinese fleet of 350 ships and submarines. China is no longer far off threat; they are a pacing threat,” he said. “China is rapidly modernizing its navy, and building a fleet to project power far beyond the South China Sea. By the end of this decade, China could equal our numbers of ballistic missile submarines and have a substantial fleet of attack submarines.” 

Unfortunately, he said, the Navy’s shipbuilding budget doesn’t come close to meeting the strategic requirements. He agrees with the assessments that the [USN] needs 500 ships, both manned and unmanned vessels. 

“This includes increasing our attack submarine fleet from 49 to 66, and building a ballistic missile fleet of at least 12,” he said. “Our attack submarine fleet will be on the front lines in any conflict that we have with China. 

“We need to expand our industrial base to support three attack submarines per year,”...”  

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6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks Pete, interesting and encouraging to see support on both sides of Congress.

Even if the RAN SSNs are built in Adelaide there could be some obvious benefit to US (or UK) submarine industries. ASC can’t build reactors or their compartments in Adelaide. If Australia paid for BXT to expand their rate of reactor production to support 3 SSNs per year instead of two, the extra reactor per year could be bought for the RAN subs. When those 8 to 10 were finished the higher capacity could contribute to faster SSN production for the USN.

Pete said...

Hi Anonymous [at Mar 15, 2022, 10:04:00 PM]

Indeed, a given is that the current US nuclear submarine and Collins' Combat System, known as AN/BYG-1, or its next generation, will be integrated into the RAN SSNs. This Combat System (sensors, databases and weapons) represents 1/3rd (in several respects) of an SSN build.

If the US also provides the reactor section (via https://www.bwxt.com/what-we-do/naval-nuclear-propulsion ) that means around 2/3rds of the RAN SSN will be US content. This will make GD EB or HHI the obvious alternatives as main foreign contractors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia-class_submarine

UK reactor equivalent would be Rolls-Royce.

But, politics, inventions of "cheaper price" and "cutting edge" may drive 2/3rds of the decision in favour of the UK. I'm concerned the RAN has a lemming like love of the UK's BAE (which is already handling the Hunter frigate build) .

Regards Pete

Anonymous said...

Pete the reactor itself on subs where I have found figures (French Suffren SSN) was 15% of the cost.

What is your data source for the comment that combat systems cost 1/3 of an SSN cost? I have heard that for SSKs but for more costly SSNs, I would have thought the combat system share of the project cost drops as the total rises. In the case of the Attack Class the Lockheed Martin contract to design and provide the combat system fitted to the French hull design was estimated as around 20% of the total. See https://adbr.com.au/feature-sub-systems/

Surely it would not cost more than that in an Astute or especially a Virginia, where the design is already incorporated? So combat system plus reactor supplied by Lockheed/EB/BXT might be 35% of the total. Add in weapons stock and lets call it 40%. I think there must still be 50% to 60% of the work left to do in Australia. I think this would exceed the French promise and be enough to keep the politicians happy.

Pete said...

Hi Anonymous [at Mar 16, 2022, 11:29:00 PM]

No biggy. When I wrote:

"This Combat System (sensors, databases and weapons) represents 1/3rd (in several respects) of an SSN build." you'll note I didn't specify pricing.

A submarine "represents 1/3rd (in several respects) of an SSN build" is but a rule of thumb similar to "Rule of Thirds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds_(military)

If you are concerned with pricing note the internal US or UK pricing being charged to their own national navies (customers for over 100 years) may bear little resemblance to whole program prices they'll charge Australia.

Cheers Pete

Anonymous said...

Pete

I was not thinking so much of the whole of program costing, which I agree will depend as much on politics as on engineering. I was more interested in the proportion of local content. Opinion polls suggest the government’s odds of being returned are shrinking, while the war in Ukraine will ensure that any incoming Labor government will have to proceed with the SSN program in my view. The percentage of local content is still something Labor governments will watch closely. It would be astute for the navy to show this is high.

I personally think Labor criticising the Attack class and supporting the switch to SSNs had more to do with concerns over local content than anything to do with defence capability.

Pete said...

Hi Anonymous [at Mar 18, 2022, 8:17:00 AM]

Yes local Australian content is going to be even more of a pressing issue. This is partly because the rear nuclear propulsion third of the RAN SSN is likely to be fully developed and assembled in the US or UK.

That third would then be shipped as a complete unit to Adelaide for joining with the other two thirds.

With the South Australian State Government possibly being voted out over the next week (noting that vote is tomorrow) and Morrison Federal Goverment likely voted out in May 2022 differing approaches to the SSN build may come into play.

Regards Pete