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"Pete2 said...
Hi Anonymouses at 6/20/2026 6:14 AM and at 6/20/2026 9:47 AM
I acknowledge your greater expertise than I on future Canadian Submarine issues. I think the odds are SK 45% and Germany 55%.
The KSS-III might be a slightly better sub. But the Type 212CD has the political alliance advantage (Canada being in NATO) of being from fellow NATO country (Germany). Also the main allies the new sub will need to interoperate with are in NATO (against Russia).
Canada would have less interest in interoperating with SK against NK or China or for that matter against SK's "frenemy" Japan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenemy
Cheers Pete
I acknowledge your greater expertise than I on future Canadian Submarine issues. I think the odds are SK 45% and Germany 55%.
The KSS-III might be a slightly better sub. But the Type 212CD has the political alliance advantage (Canada being in NATO) of being from fellow NATO country (Germany). Also the main allies the new sub will need to interoperate with are in NATO (against Russia).
Canada would have less interest in interoperating with SK against NK or China or for that matter against SK's "frenemy" Japan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenemy
Cheers Pete
6/21/2026 1:27 PM"
2 comments:
It seems TKMS won the contract:
https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/tkms-deutscher-ruestungskonzern-erhaelt-wohl-mega-u-boot-auftrag/100238217.html
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-submarine-contract-germany-tkms/
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/canada-picks-germany-tkms-build-124628929.html
https://financialpost.com/news/canada-picks-germanys-tkms-to-build-new-submarines
On April 26, 2016 Australia was where Canada is now - but we blew it.
On that day opportunistic Australian politicians rushed a pre-July 2016 ELECTION selection process to choose a French idea that wasn't even a detailed paper or computer model.
See my "Naval Group (was DCNS) wins Australia's Future Submarine contest - Youtubes, Diagrams, Picture, Anthem" of April 26, 2016 at https://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2016/04/dcns-wins-australias-future-submarine.html
In September 2021 the French project was terminated, with extreme prejudice, by Australia in favour of a US promise by a geriatric Biden for an SSN unlikely to be delivered by Trump or his MAGA (sons of...) to the RAN until 2043 - or maybe not at all.
Failing that the UK may design and build an SSN-AUKUS at Barrow Infernal, in the mid 2050s. SSN construction (especially the reactor half) is out of Adelaide's league.
Cheers Pete
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