August 26, 2021

Russia and/or China to fill Afghanistan power vacuum

Russia and China have only just began to adjust to the Taliban ruling Afghanistan

See https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2021/08/25/putin-xi-agree-to-jointly-combat-afghanistan-threats/ of August 25, 2021. 


Blood, gold wasted and humiliation of Western forces may give Putin and Xi passing Schadenfreude. However, both realize the 
revitalized Taliban will again host Islamic terrorist camps. Such terrorist camps will be only a short distance from Russia's and China's   large Muslim populations, which can be radicalized. (Photo courtesy REPUBLICWORLD(DOT)com)
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7 comments:

GhalibKabir said...

The latest joke is the taliban claiming the kabul bombing to be a terrorist attack. The pinnacle of satire if you ask me.

Everybody and Charlie's aunt and the neighborhood street mongrel knew the isis-k faction operating in af-pak region was handpicked and raised by the pakistanis out of the 'Quetta Shura' of the taliban.

right hand and left hand are pretending to not know each other. The pakistanis and many afghans jointly milked the west for every cent they had. the US was a moron par excellence

Without squeezing the financial and military gonads of pakistan, the afghan venture was always fatally doomed.

Just one step would have done the trick: The simultaneous booting of the elite pakistani families and military kids settled in the US along with financial sanctions... the pakistanis would have squealed like a stuck pig and cooperated double quick....

Pete said...

Hi GhalibKabir

Islamic terrorist bombings - from those that kill Indian civilians in India (in 2008) to terrorist bombings killing US troops trying to help people getting out of Kabul are never funny.

I see Indian money was thrown at Afghanistan in coordinations with the Soviets (from 1978) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93India_relations#Soviet_occupation_to_Taliban_regime

Probably Indian Muslims provided intelligence to Western forces during the West's equally fruitless occupation of Afghanisatan.

In a place like Afghanistan tribal loyalties that can simultaneously run in alliance with the Taliban and terrorist groups are common and complex.

Meanwhile some oil rich Arab men will carry out their holy mission of Jihad not be exposing themselves to danger but by feeding money to newly constructed terrorist camps in Afghanistan. This Jihad by proxy is expensive. From mainly Saudi Arabia, actually getting the money to terrorist organizations frequently requires Pakistani ISI middlemen/conduits who keep a certain percentage - no doubt.

Anonymous said...


Hi Pete

The withdrawal US troops from Afghanistan shows serious impact on South Korea [1, 2]. Behavior of South Korea toward USA resembles to that of Afghanistan [1, 3, 4].

[1] https://www.dailyshincho.jp/article/2021/08271701/?all=1
South Korea is protected by USA, but, it does no

[2] https://www.chosun.com/international/us/2021/08/17/GC3YEOUE6BDMNNJEKV6DW3MARE/
“Afghanistan's reality... If it does not serve the national interest of the United States, I will leave at any time.”

[3] https://www.foreignaffairs.com/print/node/1127675
“Why the Taliban Won”

[4] https://www.voakorea.com/korea/korea-politics/us-korea-joint-drill
US experts "Afghanistan crisis reminding South Korea of the importance of military training... Stop misjudgment between North Korea and China"

Regards

Pete said...

Thanks Anonymous

I'll use your comment for an article this week.

Cheers

Pete

GhalibKabir said...

Pete@Aug 28, 2021, 3:06:00 PM

the pakistanis have been willing handmaidens of jihad with multiple objectives

1. checking India through having a 'strategic depth' in afghanistan. The other prong of the argument being keeping the afghans from pressing their claims on the durand line frontier (even the taliban to this day refuse to acknowledge the 1893 line as the border and think of peshawar as a lost afghan city...codswallop ofcourse)

quick aside: afghanistan opposed pakistan's creation and inclusion in the UN from 1947-48. the bad blood runs deep as the Pashtun think they have been senselessly divided. the taliban was pakistan's 'supposedly neat answer' to the problem.... i kid you not.

Also deep down, the pakistanis crave arabization as they are acutely aware of their 'low grade' convert status (the 2012 saudi minister tweet on pakistani slaves for instance)

2. the arabs: The effect of wahabi-salafi uprising since 1800 and the intertwined 1,300 year schism with shiaism (showing up in the rivalry with Iran since 1800) found another willing outlet in the afghan jihad. The reagan administration's donald rumsfeld and dick cheney (surprise surprise) printing qurans in the univ of Nebraska and pouring money to the mujahideen incl. a certain osama bin laden through the CIA-ISI conduit...

3. the very nature of these clannish societies starting from the western banks of the Indus in pakistan (stretching all the way to North africa, so to speak) and their religious conservatism lends itself to a lot of double-triple-quadruple crossers being found in these societies. a fake sense of piety coupled with ill serving assumed racial superiority lends itself to the human equivalent of Werner Hiesenberg's uncertainty principle....

that is why in many places in afghanistan it was perfectly normal in a family for son number 1 to be a government official, son number 2 to be an afghan army captain and son number 3 to be senior taliban commander...Gordian knot of interlinked relationships is to understate it.

What is very funny (& kinda sad) is that the pakistanis are preening themselves like a vasectomized rooster on top of a smelly dung hill... well if the death of 144 kids at the APS school Peshawar in 2014 did not change their minds.... well nothing will or might...

PS: I don't know what gives the idea Indian muslims provided intelligence in the 1970-80s. It was almost entirely punjabi and NWFP based pakistanis who did it (they look like North Indians as they are the same people who simply pretend they have arab/persian/turk DNA)

Pete said...

Hi Ghalib Kabir

Yes the Pak, Afgh situation is as complex and unresolvable as ever. Methinks ISI will be enriched from US aid + bribes meant to control Taliban/terrorism, in one hand.

And the other ISI hand will exact a 40% commision from all that Saudi/rich Arab money meant to make the "new" Afghanistan safe for terrorist camps.

GhalibKabir said...

I dunno if rich arab money can keep flowing as the good ol' days of 1980-2010 are gone. I am sure the pakistanis will try and run the scam as long as possible.

Did you see their rupee just went past 168 to the US dollar (used to be 100 rupees as recent as december 2016 and used to be 50 rupees to the dollar in 2006), a 3x fall in 15 years.

Plus they have a sullen, functionally illiterate youngster population that is not employable except as jihadists or religious scholars (or both in many cases tee hee hee).

So a resurgent jihad terror factory in a more hidden fashion is certainly possible. Biden can easily boot the pakistani elite and their kids off from America and bring pakistan to its knees double quick. but he won't do it...sadly India will have to bear the brunt now of a resurgent mental illness on its western borders.

PS: The KSS-3 with its 3 VLS looks a neat model. If only the Koreans could do the licensing thingy they did with the K-9 155 mm SPH for India.....though I am afraid India will end paying a dear price as Korea will recoup all its R&D from India..ala Russia pattern..