I'm publishing news about subs and other issues at a slower tempo. Unlike most advanced countries Australian submarine changes are slow: first LOTE by 2030? 1 used Virginia by 2036 or later? But missiles and novel warheads always tempt. Shawn C and Gessler are welcome to post articles on SubMatts. Cheers Pete
July 17, 2016
UK vote on Trident Replacement due tomorrow, Monday July 18, 2016
Drawing from The Guardian's July 16, 2016 articleby Paul TorpeyandPaul Scruton"Trident: what you need to know before the parliamentary
vote".
The UK Parliament (in the House of Commons) is due to vote whether the UK squadron of 4 SSBNs, that carry Trident missiles, should be replaced. The vote may be around
- London time - 4pm Monday July 18, 2016 and
- Australian Eastern time - 1am, Tuesday, July 19, 2016
(see the BBC report on ABC TV Channel 24).
What caught my eye are later paragraph's in the Janes' article: http://www.janes.com/article/62282/images-show-possible-new-variant-of-china-s-type-094-ssbn
"There is also speculation on Chinese online forums that this is the fourth Type 094 SSBN that has been produced. Since 2008 the Pentagon's annual China military reports have estimated that up to five Type 094s could be produced.
China has great incentive to improve what are believed to be 'noisy' SSBNs. In 2009 the US Office of Naval Intelligence produced a chart showing that the Type 094, first launched in 2004, was noisier than the Soviet-era Project 667BDR (Delta III) SSBN, first launched in 1976.
Modifications to the Type 093 and Type 094 point to China's continued effort to improve its nuclear submarine force, which the Pentagon notes will lead to the third generation Type 095 SSN and Type 096 SSBN in the 2020s.
The latest Pentagon report on China's military also notes that a new JL-3 submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) may be under development for the Type 096 SSBN."
COMMENT
China appears to be still at the stage of slowly improving its SSBNs-SLBMs (JL-3s) and SSNs without settling on designs for major production - yet.
Hi Pete, It seems like for China, their SSN and SSBN's are on par with the Soviet/Russian Navy of the 1970's era. Though their SSK's are on par with the Modern Kilo class SSK.
There are so many parameters-points of comparision we would need to compare Russian and Chinese subs of all classes.
Many comparisons are not obvious as they are inside the subs - including sensors, combat systems and weapons. The quality-performance of crews is also a point of comparision.
Most comparative data is highly classified.
Large US intel institutions would be the main authorities - such as the CIA Intelligence Directorate and US Naval Intelligence. But they won't be talking to you or me.
4 comments:
Hi pete
This may interest u from Janes defense weekly
Images show possible new variant of China's Type 094 SSBN
http://www.janes.com/article/62282/images-show-possible-new-variant-of-china-s-type-094-ssbn
Thanks Nicky
What caught my eye are later paragraph's in the Janes' article: http://www.janes.com/article/62282/images-show-possible-new-variant-of-china-s-type-094-ssbn
"There is also speculation on Chinese online forums that this is the fourth Type 094 SSBN that has been produced. Since 2008 the Pentagon's annual China military reports have estimated that up to five Type 094s could be produced.
China has great incentive to improve what are believed to be 'noisy' SSBNs. In 2009 the US Office of Naval Intelligence produced a chart showing that the Type 094, first launched in 2004, was noisier than the Soviet-era Project 667BDR (Delta III) SSBN, first launched in 1976.
Modifications to the Type 093 and Type 094 point to China's continued effort to improve its nuclear submarine force, which the Pentagon notes will lead to the third generation Type 095 SSN and Type 096 SSBN in the 2020s.
The latest Pentagon report on China's military also notes that a new JL-3 submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) may be under development for the Type 096 SSBN."
COMMENT
China appears to be still at the stage of slowly improving its SSBNs-SLBMs (JL-3s) and SSNs without settling on designs for major production - yet.
Regards
Pete
Hi Pete,
It seems like for China, their SSN and SSBN's are on par with the Soviet/Russian Navy of the 1970's era. Though their SSK's are on par with the Modern Kilo class SSK.
Hi Nicky
Its difficult to say.
There are so many parameters-points of comparision we would need to compare Russian and Chinese subs of all classes.
Many comparisons are not obvious as they are inside the subs - including sensors, combat systems and weapons. The quality-performance of crews is also a point of comparision.
Most comparative data is highly classified.
Large US intel institutions would be the main authorities - such as the CIA Intelligence Directorate and US Naval Intelligence. But they won't be talking to you or me.
Regards
Pete
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