Pete's earliest detailed comments on South Korea and its SSN ambitions were April 16, 2015's "South Korean Submarines, 3,000+ ton KSS-III, Nuclear
Potential" at https://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2015/04/south-korean-submarines-3000-ton-kss.html 15 comments, 10,155 pageviews.
Pete wrote "S Korean nuke sub Reactor likely to be French K15 Variant" on December 16 2021 at https://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2021/12/s-korean-built-nuke-sub-reactor-likely.html 4 comments, 2,220 pageviews.
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"...SUBMARINE MATTERS BACKGROUND AND COMMENT [written in 2021]
South Korea is leaning toward a [Low Enriched Uranium (LEU)] reactor solution perhaps initially on a South Korea SSBN - which will be based around the ballistic missile submarine KSS-III SSB. It is not surprising South Korea has long been in talks with France (since 2017 if not earlier) about South Korea building a variant of France's K15 LEU reactor. The K15 is on France's Triomphant class SSBNs and, in slightly smaller form, on the France's Barracuda-Suffren class SSNs.
In Submarine Matters’ “South Korea seeks Submarine Reactors from US and RUSSIA” of October 22, 2019 South Korea may have concluded it is better to buy an existing submarine reactor or at least a ship reactor than totally reinvent a submarine reactor.
Since 2017 (if not earlier) South Korea has been considering France’s new Barracuda SSN with its K15 (aka K 15 aka K-15) reactor. With North Korea's buildup of nuclear weapon and missile capabilities South Korea, in October 2019, has been testing any increased US willingness for South Korea to explore nuclear propulsion options.
The Triomphant-class's 2(?) x K15s and Barracuda's single K15 reactor stands for 150 MWt power which translates to a total of 30 MWe electrical power (for the French Barracuda’s non-propulsive electrical services hotel load + propulsion).
"In October 2017, the [South Korean] Navy commissioned the Seoul-based Korea Defense Network to conduct a five month study on the feasibility of developing an indigenous nuclear-powered attack submarine. The think tank reported in March 2018 the results to the Navy, suggesting the service build a nuclear attack submarine along the lines of the French 5,300-ton Barracuda-class sub. The French sub is fuelled by low-enriched uranium."
- technical advantage of being built for a submarine of just over 5,000 tons, ie. in South Korea's KSS III Bach III weight bracket. While the KSS III Batch II with 10 x VLS silos has diesel-electric (also AIP) propulsion the proposed KSS III Batch III may eventuall have 12 to 16 VLS silos requiring an unusually large propulsion solution. Nuclear has been the solution for SSBNs built by the US, Russia, UK, France, China and India.
- So a A K15 variant first mounted on a South Korean SSBN by the early 2030s may be followed by mounting a K15 reactor variant on a South Korean SSN by the mid 2030s. In terms of vertically launched cruise or ballistic missiles the KSS Batch I features 6 VLS tubes, each with one missile. The KSS III Batch II [now features 10] and the KSS III Batch III perhaps 12 to 16.
India, already having SSBNs, is interested in building 6 x Project 75 Alpha class SSNs with specialised SSN reactors. India is naturally talking to France's Naval Group. Naval Group is already helping India build the 6 Kalvari-class Scorpenes, and bidding for India's 6 x AIP diesel-electric Project-75I SSK competition. Naval Group produces all of France's SSNs and SSBNs. So India can have far ranging discussions, on many topics, with Naval Group."
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"Bill Seney [said]
I have seen news reports:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2026/05/26/asia-pacific/south-korea-nuclear-submarine-2030s/
that South Korea [SK] is looking at a nuclear powered variant of the KSS-III. Given
that US nuclear subs seem to be getting further and further away and that UK
subs are at least 2 decades away is it worth Australia's while to look at a SK option?
Given that [SK] has yet to build a nuclear submarine I could see the project
slipping or even facing cancelation, so it is high risk. On the other hand, we
know SK can build diesel boats. Perhaps a mixed fleet, with initial
deliveries of conventional KSS-III followed by a nuclear variant when
available? If the nuclear option is cancelled Australia would still end up with
a powerful fleet of conventional submarines.
7/15/2026 10:41 AM
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Pete2 [said]
Thanks Bill [I agree with your 7/15/2026 10:41 AM comment]]
I'll develop your idea as an article probably tomorrow.
I've long theorised here at SubMatts that SK would look to France's K15 LEU
reactor for technology transfer. Also that the last KSS-III Batch 2 or Batch 3s
would be nuclear powered.
Cheers Pete
7/15/2026 10:53 AM
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Bill Seney [said]
Thanks Pete
Something I forgot to mention in my earlier comment is that the KSS-III is
about the same size as the American Skipjack class SSN, so a nuclear KSS-III
variant should be technically feasible.
[Pete comment - Yes the Skipjack-class SSN (1956-1990) was indeed KSS-III sized, at ~ 3,075t (surfaced) & ~3,513t (submerged) and the
French K15 using, Suffren/Barracuda SSN is ~4,765t-5,300t]
Also, if Australia wanted to partner with South Korea on SSNs we can provide
not just uranium [Australia has the 2nd largest Uranium reserves worldwide] but enrichment technology [Australian invented SILEX] as well, something the Koreans may
be interested in.
7/15/2026 10:53 PM
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Pete Comment
Whether the US and its changeable Trump card can play a useful part in SK's (at least 11 year old) nuclear powered submarine program follows in a week.
Certainly the US has an international law "123 Agreement" hold over SK that transactional Trump will maintain unless SK pays the US the price Trump seeks, that may vary from week to week.
Hi Pete
ReplyDeleteIMO, the Korean SSN/SSBN might potentially be too excessively large, overly ambitious for a country of their size and strategic interest.
There's a document (page 6) indicating the SMR reactor will have a targeted output of 70 MWt, so roughly 15-20 MWe? That's way lower than S9G on Virginia
https://sejong.org/web/boad/1/egofiledn.php?conf_seq=22&bd_seq=12692&file_seq=41163
That's despite the rumours that KSS-N will have a comparable displacement of 8000-9000t.
https://xcancel.com/mason_8718/status/2062929000293630233
Using cubic law, assuming a 35 knots speed for Virginia, KSS-N will likely have a top speed of 35/cbrt(3) ~ 24.267 knots, not that great IMO.
And iirc, the cost of a SSN also depend on it's size, so a rather slow, yet large SSN might not turn out that well for South Korea. They also don't have a large defense budget, as the case with the US to be able to replace KSS-N in a timely manner.
Norwegian TECO recently claimed of being able to produce marine fuel cells with output up to 400kW, a big stack with 4 of such system can output up to 1.6 MW
https://www.oceanhywaycluster.no/news/teco2030-fuel-cell
If fig. 2 in this study is correct, then 1.6MW fuel cell system(or even 1.2 MW) can enable a 3000t SSK 13-14 knots cruise speed, or 4000t SSK at 11-12 knots?
https://jmstt.ntou.edu.tw/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1152&context=journal
Also, TKMS also showed a 14.5 MWh LIB layout on (likely 212CD?) back in 2016
https://ficci.in/public/storage/events/22716/ISP/2-Andreas-Grunickle-TKMS.pdf
That should be sufficient for 30 knots burst for 1 hour.
Again, i'm not denying the extreme endurance and range advantage of SSN/SSGN, but i remain skeptical about the Korean approach, mostly due to cost and whether it's performance can ever justify the price tag.
Hi jun at 7/19/2026 10:23 AM
ReplyDeleteThanks for all your comments and links.
On Monday July 20, 2026 I will be busy offline talking to some submarine specialists for a week till Sunday July 26, 2026 - then I can process reader comments and respond to you with an article - as your comments/links deserve it.
Meanwhile the first link you have provided is excellent - that is an unofficial translation of Seong-Chang CHEONG's, Vice President, Sejong Institute's softpower@sejong.org "Strategy and Roadmap for ROK-France Cooperation on Nuclear-Powered Submarines: EU-Based Naval Integration and a Mutually Beneficial Partnership Model" SEJONG FOCUS, February 10, 2026 at https://sejong.org/web/boad/1/egofiledn.php?conf_seq=22&bd_seq=12692&file_seq=41163
I recommend all SubMatts readers read that article because after the SK-US SSN announcement last year there has been very little detailed hard information on this SK Program.
Regards Pete
PS to all other SubMatts readers - I recommend you store a copy of:
ReplyDeletethe excellent, unofficial translation of Seong-Chang CHEONG's, Vice President, Sejong Institute's softpower@sejong.org 's "Strategy and Roadmap for ROK-France Cooperation on Nuclear-Powered Submarines: EU-Based Naval Integration and a Mutually Beneficial Partnership Model" SEJONG FOCUS, February 10, 2026 at https://sejong.org/web/boad/1/egofiledn.php?conf_seq=22&bd_seq=12692&file_seq=41163
It is so valuable - the risk it may be "taken down"-removed from the Internet deserves securing a copy beforehand.
My Google Your search for https://xcancel.com/mason_8718/status/2062929000293630233 yielded auto message "did not match any documents - Suggestions: Make sure that all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords."
Thanks jun - the other links you provided work :)
Regards Pete
A revision to the link jun supplied that included 8718 - try https://xcancel.com/mason_8718/search?f=tweets&q=KSS-N&since=&until=&min_faves=
ReplyDeleteI Google AI'd "KSS-N Mason" which yielded:
https://www.google.com/search?q=KSS-N+Mason&sca_esv=a6c48276f9deda42&sxsrf=APpeQnuwlOvx-Vt5LAKEEBsTSOsBWxLX0g%3A1784428965892&source=hp&ei=pTlcap28NNOYseMPq-a9wQo&iflsig=ABILxe8AAAAAalxHtUcIZdRHObueyNOTm8phUm8-47YQ&ved=0ahUKEwjdooz1292VAxVTTGwGHStzL6gQ4dUDCD4&uact=5&oq=KSS-N+Mason&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IgtLU1MtTiBNYXNvbjIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABSMZXUABY7UBwAHgAkAEAmAHFAaABiw-qAQQwLjExuAEDyAEA-AEBmAILoALAD8ICBBAjGCfCAgsQABiABBiKBRiRAsICCxAuGIAEGIoFGJECwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARjRA8ICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgoQABiABBiKBRhDwgIOEAAYgAQYigUYsQMYgwHCAgUQABiABMICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIJEAAYgAQYChgLwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICBxAhGAoYoAGYAwCSBwUwLjkuMqAHnj2yBwUwLjkuMrgHwA_CBwUxLjUuNcgHG4AIAQ&sclient=gws-wiz with text
"It looks like you are referring to the South Korean nuclear-powered submarine program, often discussed by the prominent naval analyst and defense commentator Mason ヨンハク (known by his handle @mason_8718).
The KSS-N is an upcoming class of nuclear-powered submarines currently under development by the Republic of Korea (ROK) Navy, with the first vessel expected to be launched by the mid-2030s.
Key details regarding the KSS-N program and the analyses shared by Mason include:
Size and Capability: The submarines are estimated to have a full load displacement of roughly 8,000 to 9,000 tonnes.
Strategic Role: Mason notes that the KSS-N will serve as the Navy's "iron fist," effectively blurring the lines between a guided-missile submarine (SSGN) and a ballistic missile submarine (SSBN).
Operational Range: Due to their size, these submarines are expected to have a vast operational range, capable of patrolling far beyond the Yellow Sea into the wider East Sea and East China Sea. In peacetime, they will focus on tracking adversary submarines, while carrying massive strategic strike capabilities for conflicts.
Armament: Expected hardware includes next-generation large Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBMs)—following the HM-4-4—as well as highly advanced reactors, sensors, and stealth features.
You can follow his ongoing defense analysis and updates regarding the KSS-N project directly on Mason ヨンハク X Profile.
Would you like to know more about the current KSS-III conventional submarine fleet that serves as the technological predecessor to the KSS-N, or explore the differences between various naval submarine classifications (like SSGN vs SSBN)? Let me know how to direct your search!"
Thanks Pete
ReplyDeleteOne thing i would like to add, the sinking of Ursa Major, which was purported to were carrying old soviet era reactor for North Korean SSBNs, could potentially set that program back for decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Ursa_Major
So a South Korean SSN/SSGN program doesn't make much sense to me, aside from kickstarting a new, and expensive naval arm race in Northeast Asia.
Given the advancement in Fuel cells, and Methanol Reformer, an ideal SSK with at least 10 knots cruising on AIP and 30 knots with LIB, a field where South Korean should have plenty experience in, could be a more affordable choice to SSN, if a 4000 - 5000nm submerged endurance range can be achieved.
IIRC, the KSS-3 also crossed the Pacific on their trip to Canada, though its unclear if they made it fully submerged or still partly surfaced, with halfway stop at Hawaii
From French Ano
ReplyDelete2 comments :
-the first to Jun:
SSN are marginally more expensive than SSK for a country with extensive civilian N industry(fuel cycle before and after, Safety, training /education,RH (post career for naval crew) and so on (a quick look at the Fr defense budget ,its all public).6 SSN is at least equivalent to 12 SSK BTW (nearly ubiquitous)..this is the case of SK, Japan or ..Canada (barred by the US as this was their first choice)
The power needed for a given speed increase with displacement more by the square not by power 3 and this change your point (cross section is critical)
AIP in a broad sense is a "large battery" that could be reloaded at port only(cryogenic gas), the size of the AIP furel cell does not change that .Modern Li batteriesneeds to be (an can) reloaded at sea. While it can sustain 10 to 12 days in a low speed /station it has however an indiscretion ratio of about 2% (for evert y 100 hrs of immersion , you need to find slots totalling 2 hrs). For large geography /large ocean'(Surabaya is located more thea 1000 nm one way from Timor for instance) the choice become obvious..Argentina , Netherland( in the Caribbean..), Japan (distance from Sakkhalin to Okinawa..), Chile,Brazil..
The biggest danger for a sub is at port (Sebastopol recently..)The 5 huge (5 meter to 10 meters,reinforced concrete )U boot docking stations built in 1942/43 ,still there on the west coast of France , seen from space, (tourist attraction, ) prove that this point was alredy there 85 years ago
-The second on SK SSN/vs French K15
First one has to remember that SK has no enrichment facility (forbidden by US treaty). Buying LEU on the civilian market might be possible at the limit but the civilian sector might go to 7 % (not the HALEU , NPT limit at 20%)
The long article (16 pages);,Jan 21, 2026 by Seong-Chang Cheong : a Big Deal strategy.. has been practically unreported by the public in France.In a "deal" what's for France ? (which by delivering early 2 Framatome 900Mw plants in SK helped/allowed the SK industry to compete, successfully sometimes).The Frenc Gov see that also as a leverage vs the US (nothing is happening there). The Gov believes also hat SK does not need France , it would just take longer,15 to 20 years ,for their current programme in place to do their own version of K15.( Highly loaded plate fuel is essential for compacity ,not rod in tube, and LEU
at 7 % operation).See for instance the KIMQI project initiated in 2021 at KAERI to fabtricate high density loaded plate by depositing atomized U3Si2 on large plates (Transactions. Korean, Nucl. Society,fall meeting ,Oct 20 ,2022) for "compact research reactor", safer (vs loss of coolant) because ot higher temp tolerance
A deal with Japan is more likely asJapan is a traditionnal customer of France in the fuel cycle, have control of the whole cycle incl reprocessing, Japanes colmpanies supplies large forged steel element sometimes to Fr N plants. Numerous exchange take place with both navies (with a legal framework in place); France believes also that for economic reasons and strategic reason (leverage on NK), SK has closer interest with China. China is perceived as a potential threat to French interests in Indian Ocean, Pacific. Ocean. (close to 2 millions citizens,french" Departements" since 1945, a situation similar to Hawai vs continental US)
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