On June 15, 2020 new commenter “retortPouch”
made some comments on Singapore’s current 2 Archer-class
submarines, Type
214s and, in much greater detail Singapore’s Type
218SG Invincible-class submarines. retortPouch numbered the sections 1) to 13). There will eventually be 4 x 218SGs. Pete has added many links (other than the 3 Key CUTAWAY links, from retortPouch):
Key CUTAWAY links:
retortPouch
“1) It's
almost certain that the Archers will be kept in service for a while longer
maintaining a six boat fleet [ie. 2 Challenger-class, the 2 Archers and 2 x 218SGs (due for delivery 2021-22)] . The Archers are said to have had significant upgrades c.a. 2010 for which one particular Dr. Tan Beng Hock won the
Defense Technology Prize in 2013.
2) It's actually very informative to make a comparison between the three HDW/TKMS Type 214 derivatives: the "basic" 214, the Turkish 214TN Reis-class and the 218SG.
2) It's actually very informative to make a comparison between the three HDW/TKMS Type 214 derivatives: the "basic" 214, the Turkish 214TN Reis-class and the 218SG.
Key CUTAWAY links:
a) 218SG
largest cutaway (above – click here for a greatly enlarged image) (Cutaway courtesy https://www.naval.com.br/blog/2019/02/18/invincible-primeiro-submarino-type-218sg-de-singapura-e-lancado-na-alemanha/ )
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b) Turkish Type 214TN "Reis" variant. Largest cutaway (above – click here for enlarged image) (Cutaway courtesy https://www.monch.com/mpg/news/naval-channel/4361-turksub.html )
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c)
Generic Type 214 above. For Largest cutaway (click here) (Cutaway courtesy http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/u-214-schnittbild.jpg )
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3)
Comparing the cutaway diagrams, using the central console as a central point of
reference for size, we see that there is about a two and a half meter extension
fore of the sail, and about a similar extension aft of the sail compared to the
generic 214.
4) The
area with bunk beds in the 218SG is almost certainly a reconfigurable space
serving alternate duty as Spec Ops hotel, or Torpedo/Payload Room, or part of
each at the same time. It is however the same size (between the Galley and the
start of the Torpedo launch tubes) as that on the 214TN/Reis class.
5) [AARONQFW advises that compared to the Turkish Reis 214 variant (ie. 214TN), about 1 meter of the extension aft of the sail is in the engine room, about 1 meter is an enlarged combat center, and about half a meter is an enlarged technology room.] Try scaling it identically and superimposing the images to see. Maybe the 218SG's shtick really is "engaging targets at longer range" as the Defence Ministry puts it, and remote sensing/distributed swarm tactics with UUVs to "sense targets at greater range". Perhaps it is fitted for the DM2A4 ER SeaHake torpedo? See the SeaHake arms-showed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYvt3tU2yqU .
5) [AARONQFW advises that compared to the Turkish Reis 214 variant (ie. 214TN), about 1 meter of the extension aft of the sail is in the engine room, about 1 meter is an enlarged combat center, and about half a meter is an enlarged technology room.] Try scaling it identically and superimposing the images to see. Maybe the 218SG's shtick really is "engaging targets at longer range" as the Defence Ministry puts it, and remote sensing/distributed swarm tactics with UUVs to "sense targets at greater range". Perhaps it is fitted for the DM2A4 ER SeaHake torpedo? See the SeaHake arms-showed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYvt3tU2yqU .
6) The
extension aft of the 218SG sail seems to be distributed throughout the engine
room, and in the cutaway it appears to be used as empty space, but the cutaway
seems to omit a lot of important things; it's almost like somebody turned off a
few layers on a Computer Aided Design (CAD) rendering. We can only speculate
(and I encourage you to speculate!) as to what might be contained in the engine
room, because it's not typical of the Singaporean military to sacrifice
equipment for comfort. If anything their stuff is chronically over modified.
7) The
218SG might not have a Horizontal Multi-Purpose Lock (HMPL) for Special Operations (“SEAL” diver) delivery; the airlock
might be located in the base of the sail instead like the German and Italian Type 212As and the Greek Type
214s.
However, no pictures are forthcoming of the 218SG sail itself. There is
however, one picture of the 218SG bow during the February
18, 2019 commissioning ceremony on
Alamy Stock Photos here, showing that like the classic 214s, the hydrophone and most
of the larger sonar equipment is probably housed below the torpedo tubes. [Pete has used a Straits Times' image below due to copyright concerns].
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8) The 218SG screw/propeller is obviously missing from the cutaway (which makes you wonder why they omitted the screw when HDW screws are
very well photographed), and there are no extant pictures of the 218SG's screw.
However, the cutaway shows a Propeller Boss Cap Fins (PBCF) in place of the
traditional hub, and a large ring like shroud for several very thin, straight
blades, probably non rotating. A very interesting device which I have not seen
anywhere else. It have something to do with flow optimization, or it might have
something to do with reducing cavitation. I recall some years ago on your blog
a commenter said it had to do with a torpedo or towed array; as far as I can
tell this is not the case since there are no torpedo tubes to the rear, and
plenty of submarines with towed arrays function well without it.
9) The 218SG
is quite a thin submarine with respect to draught. It's unlike the German/Italian
Type 212A and Israeli Dolphin
1s and 2s,
(which are more similar to each other than to the 214 derived series), and is
probably not a true double decked design.
10)
Depending on how long you think the Upgraded Västergötland-class [becoming Singapore’s 2 Archer-class]
[and the Swedish Navy’s 2] Sodermanland-class Stirling subs can endure underwater, the 218SG has anywhere between 3 and 6 weeks' endurance (half again
compared to Archer class, according
to the Singapore’s Defence Ministry). My guess is that the rear of the 218SG is used to house more Liquid
Oxygen LOX / Metal Hydride MH, or
more batteries. If it's batteries, then it's got to be lithium ion, because
lead acids are too bulky and there's no point having more of them then. By a
back of the envelope calculation, you'd need 13 to 14 tonnes of LOX to go 2,880
nautical miles, or 4 knots continuously at 60 to 70 percent reactant efficiency
(which is ballpark for 4 knots for the SINAVY
PEM 120kW cells, at 60 to 70kW total propulsion load) for 30 days. This
works out to about 11 cubic meters of LOX (and a smaller volume of MH), which
is quite a bit but not so much.
[Note
retortPouch later wrote: “Sorry, I forgot to account for cell voltage in the
basic calculation, the quantity can be divided by 0.6 for standard fuel cells
giving 22 tonnes or 19 cubic meters of LOX, however Siemens claims the SINAVY
PEM 120kW models run at about 1 volt cell voltage, which makes the calculation
accidentally correct.”]
The
alternative is between 100 cubic meters to 300 cubic meters worth of Lithium-ion
batteries (LIBs). Instead of a full LIB
solution, the 218SG might employ a
very large load of LOX, perhaps up to 20 cubic meters worth for recharging, and
a larger than normal volume of batteries, which might be LIB. HDW/TKMS is known
to have explored LIBs for the Type 216
[offered to Australia up to 2016 under the SEA 1000 competition], and as early
as c. 2009, the below linked Singapore publication states specifically that HDW
is researching replacing lead acid with lithium ion. In that case, the
advantage would be a much larger sprint/surface reserve battery capability,
mitigating the problem with the old Swedish subs.
See Introduction
to Submarine Design by Singapore’s (?) Ong Li Koon, Liu Chee
Kong and Toh Chee Wee at https://www.dsta.gov.sg/docs/default-source/dsta-about/introduction-to-submarine-design.pdf?sfvrsn=2
11) At the [TKMS? Kiel?] dockyard, the bottom of the [218SG?] hull seems to be much blockier than the TKMS-Israeli Dolphin or classic Type 214. I speculate that it might provide extra strength, external reactant storage, and larger sensors. At the commissioning dockyard, I could not find any photo evidence of a side payload bay.
12) The contract price for the first two 218SG subs was stated in press releases to include logistics, training and the actual construction. At US$900 million per sub, if we assume half the costs go to logistics (spares) and training, the remaining half goes to the sub, which is about half again more expensive than the classic 214s that Korea and Greece received, which went for about US$300 million. The 218SG's construction costs are in the ballpark for a Type 212A but of course this is the purest kind of speculation.
13) Funnily enough, the diagram of the 218SG linked above, which the Singaporean Ministry of Defence released, appears to be an isometric projection, whereas the 214 and 214TN(?) are both orthographic projections. It's as if they just took a screenshot in AutoCAD and released it to the publicity people. Cheap on the minor, splurge on the major, classic.
The 218SG might actually be shape up to be the smallest oceangoing capable submarine in service. Its shtick might be long submerged range, long engagement range, and long sensor range in a distributed swarm."
11) At the [TKMS? Kiel?] dockyard, the bottom of the [218SG?] hull seems to be much blockier than the TKMS-Israeli Dolphin or classic Type 214. I speculate that it might provide extra strength, external reactant storage, and larger sensors. At the commissioning dockyard, I could not find any photo evidence of a side payload bay.
12) The contract price for the first two 218SG subs was stated in press releases to include logistics, training and the actual construction. At US$900 million per sub, if we assume half the costs go to logistics (spares) and training, the remaining half goes to the sub, which is about half again more expensive than the classic 214s that Korea and Greece received, which went for about US$300 million. The 218SG's construction costs are in the ballpark for a Type 212A but of course this is the purest kind of speculation.
13) Funnily enough, the diagram of the 218SG linked above, which the Singaporean Ministry of Defence released, appears to be an isometric projection, whereas the 214 and 214TN(?) are both orthographic projections. It's as if they just took a screenshot in AutoCAD and released it to the publicity people. Cheap on the minor, splurge on the major, classic.
The 218SG might actually be shape up to be the smallest oceangoing capable submarine in service. Its shtick might be long submerged range, long engagement range, and long sensor range in a distributed swarm."
retortPouch
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/singapore-poison-shrimp-strategy-new-submarines-type-218sg-11260946
ReplyDeleteCorrection: Turns out the Archers will be retired after 2024, as of 2019 plans!
Furthermore, a) as of 2019, the Invincibles will not be armed with land attack missiles, however b) it is likely, by the phrasing of the author, that it will be able to operate UUVs. Other relevant items come in the last few paragraphs, like underwater submarine safety/codes of conduct.
ReplyDeleteHey! More new tidbits about the Invinicbles:
ReplyDelete1) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXwDtQ_U0AADx3n?format=jpg&name=small
218SG going through sea trials, shared on Twitter by the proper "Above and Beyond" man, David Boey, original article here https://www.shz.de/regionales/kiel/neues-u-boot-invincible-auf-der-kieler-foerde-zu-sehen-id28288867.html; p.c. Rolf Dunkel.
2) https://twitter.com/tpenghui/status/1131731710805024768?s=20
Tpenghui/Faithkeeper confirms, via the TKMS marketing fella, that 218SG will have a new design of ultraquiet screw, and the large ring, as suspected, was to optimise flow, and make it cleaner for the screw.
3) https://twitter.com/tpenghui/status/1129189192540442624?s=20
Tpenghui/Faithkeeper confirms that the pressure hull will be steel, however the upper angled "tent", and the massive keel structures will be made of nonsteel, nonmagnetic materials to reduce the magnetic signature of the sub.
4) The Invincibles will come with vertical locks (possibly not VMPLs, but probably not the sail lock solution) to launch the NDU boys.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DABDlQFUAAA8lX_?format=jpg&name=medium
This is an old model photo from the 2017 TKMS booth at IMDEX Asia, taken by Tim Fish/@sweeneygov, look at the cutouts on the top surface of the "tent".
Magnetic steel HY100 (proof strength 690MPa) and non-magnetic steel 1.3964 (560MPa) as pressure hull material are used for Type214 and Type212A, respectively. HY100 is presumably used for pressure hull of Type218SG with similar structure to Type214. If 1.3964 is used for Type218SG, its structure shall be reviewed from scratch.
ReplyDeleteThe keel structures are made of HY100 and FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) plates. HY100 keel structures under diesel and propulsion motor sections are welded to pressure hull, are presumably used for fuel tank. In the other sections, FRP plates are fixed by bolts (white spots) not because of non-magnetism, but because of thermal insulation of MH(Metal Hydride) cylinders. MH cylinders are installed in the space between pressure hull and FRP plates and are surrounded by adiabatic material. A pipe as heat exchanger, where cool liquid is carried at hydrogen loading to absorb hydrogen and hot liquid is carried at hydrogen generation, is transfixed in MH cylinder. Heat from reaction in PEMFC is used for heating of liquid inside of the heat exchanger. FRP plate might act rupture disc at leakage of hydrogen from MH cylinders.
Additional comment of June 19, 2020 at 3:43 PM
ReplyDeleteHY100 (thermal conductivity 34 W/mK) and FRP (0.5-0.1W/mK) are conductor and semi thermal insulator, respectively.
Hi Pete
ReplyDeleteStructure of a fuel cylinder in comment on June 19, 2020 at 3:43 PM should be reviewed as follows (under line). I am sorry.
Magnetic steel HY100 (proof strength 690MPa) and non-magnetic steel 1.3964 (560MPa) as pressure hull material are used for Type214 and Type212A, respectively. HY100 is presumably used for pressure hull of Type218SG with similar structure to Type214. If 1.3964 is used for Type218SG, its structure shall be reviewed from scratch.
The keel structures are made of HY100 and FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) plates. HY100 keel structures under diesel and propulsion motor sections are welded to pressure hull, are presumably used for fuel tank. In the other sections, FRP plates are fixed by bolts (white spots) not because of non-magnetism, but because of thermal insulation of fuel cylinders in the space between pressure hull and FRP plates [1] and are surrounded by adiabatic material. A MH cylinder is installed within a fuel cylinder and surrounded by liquid. Cool liquid is carried into a fuel cylinder at hydrogen loading and cools hydrogen absorbing metal inside of a MH cylinder to absorb hydrogen from external hydrogen source. Hot liquid is carried in a fuel cylinder at hydrogen generation and heats MH inside of a MH cylinder to generate hydrogen. Heat from reaction in PEMFC is used for heating of liquid inside of fuel cylinders. FRP plate might act rupture disc at leakage of hydrogen from MH cylinders.
[1] HY100 (thermal conductivity 34 W/mK) and FRP (0.5-0.1W/mK) are thermal conductor and semi thermal insulator, respectively.
Regards
Hi retortPouch and Anonymous
ReplyDeleteThanks for your extra comments on Singapore's Type 218SG "Invincible" class.
I intend to turn your comments into an article tomorrow.
Cheers
Pete