tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post7488536082795741842..comments2024-03-30T00:14:23.992+11:00Comments on Submarine Matters & Australian Nuclear Weapons: Attacks on Syria Provided Unsurpassed Missile Testing OpportunitiesPete2http://www.blogger.com/profile/06134037393078707072noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-35707219238986795262018-04-20T17:37:00.516+10:002018-04-20T17:37:00.516+10:00Hi again KQN [at 20/4/18 1:52 PM]
Yes https://fr....Hi again KQN [at 20/4/18 1:52 PM]<br /><br />Yes https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languedoc_(fr%C3%A9gate)#Guerre_civile_syrienne supports your advice that French frigate Lanquedoc fired 3 MdcN cruise missiles - but no French admission of malfunction.<br /><br />https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquitaine_(fr%C3%A9gate)#Guerre_civile_syrienne indeed supports your advice that French FREMM frigate Aquitaine (April 14, 2018) was involved in the cruise missiling of targets in Syria. And earlier in April 2018 Aquitaine was buzzed by a Russian plane.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-26147575138330688782018-04-20T17:19:59.974+10:002018-04-20T17:19:59.974+10:00Thanks KQN [at 18/4/18 3:47 PM]
A successful inte...Thanks KQN [at 18/4/18 3:47 PM]<br /><br />A successful interception of a cruise missile against a Syrian target would probably require a S-400 SAM system manned by an experienced Russian crew [1] to have any chance of interception<br /><br />[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_missile_system#Syria with distributed ground and ship mounted radar, satellite (and maybe high altitude drone) cueing support.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-11897834267536517582018-04-20T13:52:23.159+10:002018-04-20T13:52:23.159+10:00I read the MdcN had a slight hiccup. The 1st salvo...I read the MdcN had a slight hiccup. The 1st salvo to be fired from the FREMM malfunctioned. So a back up salvo was fired from the Aquitaine.<br />KQNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-43458077192058440042018-04-18T15:47:32.571+10:002018-04-18T15:47:32.571+10:00Intercepting a cruise missile is pretty hard even ...Intercepting a cruise missile is pretty hard even with the most advanced ground based SAM systems. You have to deal with terrain masking and there are always holes in the SAM coverage that allow a cruise missile to go around or slip through. The attacker has the benefits he can choose the targets and the time to hit. No defender can afford to protect everything so he will always heavily defend his most vital targets and leave the rest to chance.<br />Even then, a cruise missile is likely only vulnerable in its terminal phase, where some variants do need to gain altitude to select and identify their targets. Still, a defender does not have a lot of time to react. Assuming it has to pop up within 10-20km, at best you only have 30-60 seconds. A stealth missile is going to cut that time down further. The intrinsic reaction time of an older SAM is in the 10-12 seconds already, newer systems cut that down to 5 seconds. And then you still have to add in the radar operator time lag plus the time it takes for the SAM to fly to its intercept point (there is probably not enough time if you are across town). Unless it is a heavily defended target, the probabilities of having in the right place at the right time a SAM system are low.<br />But on heavily defended objectives, a defender can afford to set up ultra dense AA boxes as a last ditch defense (these are jam proof by any means) whereupon any cruise missile will have to fly through. That will work against the subsonic kind but less so against a supersonic one (due to its momentum).<br />KQNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-56229164224966199392018-04-18T11:20:10.230+10:002018-04-18T11:20:10.230+10:00Thanks KQN
The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-2...Thanks KQN<br /><br />The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-26 has been developed for some years and frequently is described, not as a "carrier killer", but as a "GUAM killer". With the DF-26 having the range to hit the naval and air bases on that island.<br /><br />The new TEL erectors makes the DF-26s more hidable-survivable of course.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-13894507447204483802018-04-18T11:15:11.594+10:002018-04-18T11:15:11.594+10:00Hi Josh
I suspect the "'no missiles inte...Hi Josh<br /><br />I suspect the "'no missiles intercepted' claim" might be assessed from the likelihood that the cruise missiles send uplink messages to satellite on their progress toward the targets. Then downlinks from satellite to US, UK, French ground station inform the US, UK and France as to the last piece of data from each missile. That data possibly ending with an indication the missile has not been INTERCEPTED but is about to hit the target.<br /><br />Also satellites could be pre-cued onto the target points and therefore be capable of counting the missile hits through optical-infrared imagery.<br /><br />And finally the the US may have just meant "'no [US] missiles intercepted' and while "'no missiles [were] intercepted' some cruise missiles may have malfunctioned and not hit their intended targets for other reasons, maybe even jamming?<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-55029374851787728112018-04-18T09:17:02.715+10:002018-04-18T09:17:02.715+10:00Money is flowing. China is fielding the improved 4...Money is flowing. China is fielding the improved 4000km MRBM DF-26C. Their Mach 10 hypersonic vehicle is being tested on the DF-26.<br />KQNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-21617276836228281442018-04-17T23:34:58.774+10:002018-04-17T23:34:58.774+10:00@Pete:
I question the 'no missiles intercepte...@Pete:<br /><br />I question the 'no missiles intercepted' claim. Not that I think Syrian AD could have been that effective, just that I don't see how the US would necessarily know one way or another. It certainly would be very surprising if 100+ missiles operated perfectly; more typically a least a couple crash in the process of getting to their targets when you have a raid of this size.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />JoshJoshnoreply@blogger.com