tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post5556064551538141237..comments2024-03-28T19:53:20.694+11:00Comments on Submarine Matters & Australian Nuclear Weapons: SSBNs Still Quite Dangerous - Hiroshima's 70th Anniversary Today Pete2http://www.blogger.com/profile/06134037393078707072noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-42836211694484929142015-08-10T13:09:18.026+10:002015-08-10T13:09:18.026+10:00Hi subdriver
Yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm...Hi subdriver<br /><br />Yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiling_Buddha in 1974 was a deterrent against Pakistan and also against China. <br /><br />The unusually large "research reactor" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIRUS_reactor that Canada (with US encouragement) built at Trombay, certainly helped. <br /><br />I have this theory that India received active or passive help from a variety of countries to create a nuclear capability - to balance against the menace of nuclear armed China. I think the theory makes sense in realpolitical terms - just impossible to prove.<br /><br />Of course Pakistan was developing a nuclear program before 1974. Pakistan's conventional military inferiority to India provided one motivating factor.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-79048885820086385272015-08-09T13:34:15.468+10:002015-08-09T13:34:15.468+10:00Pete,
We can just hope that good sense will preva...Pete,<br /><br />We can just hope that good sense will prevails someday...and hopefully before some catastrophic event takes place.<br /><br />India's programme is far more legitimate than Pakistan's - India has an impeccable record of non-proliferation which even Australia acknowledges.We had exploded our first device in 1975 and didnt do so again till 1998. After that we placed a moratorium on further testing and No-First Use is the cornerstone of our nuclear doctrine<br /><br />Pakistan on the other hand had a covert programme aided and abetted by China and N.Korea. Dr AQ Khan, the father of the Paki bomb was indicted for stealing secrets and technologies and under international pressure is under house arrest in Pakistan.<br /><br /><br />If Pakistan did not have the technology as they always claimed, how were they able to explode a device just a fortnight after India's in 1998 ? <br /><br />Food for thought ?!<br /><br />Regards,subdriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07358975709527829678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-55183978086539464402015-08-09T12:51:28.717+10:002015-08-09T12:51:28.717+10:00Hi subdriver
The determination of states to build...Hi subdriver<br /><br />The determination of states to build their nuclear aresenals has been greater than UNSC "pressure" (as you say) in every year since 1945. The P5 in the UNSC context have usually disagreed on nuclear restriction issues with the veto power frustrating progress. <br /><br />Which is why countries rely on non-UNSC structures:<br /><br />- P5+1 nuclear talks over Iran<br /><br />- Six Party talks over N Korea, and <br /><br />- highly effective bilateral negotiations between the US and Russia.<br /><br />So is India's nuclear arsenal more legitimate than Pakistan's?<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-65371871002834542132015-08-07T18:16:52.112+10:002015-08-07T18:16:52.112+10:00I agree Pete. The point I was trying to make was t...I agree Pete. The point I was trying to make was that the acknowledged nuclear weapon powers operating a deterrent would show more restraint in the face of provocation than a trigger-happy unstable regime. Why do not Israel, North Korea etc declare their status, whether they have nukes or not- because therein lies the danger. Pak, while being a nuclear weapon state( with stolen technology and support from the worst proliferators- China and N.Korea)claims to be a democracy but all the power including the nuclear button is in the hands of the military. <br /><br />I am not talking about IAEA safeguards on nuclear arsenals. I am talking about forcing clandestine programmes out in the open with pressure from the UNSC.subdriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07358975709527829678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-40922773399946439422015-08-07T18:05:47.492+10:002015-08-07T18:05:47.492+10:00Hi subdriver
Yes while SLBM can be fairly safely ...Hi subdriver<br /><br />Yes while SLBM can be fairly safely assumed to be nuclear it is cruise missiles (SLCMs) that could be conventional or nuclear - thus presenting a destabilising ambiguity. <br /><br />Even SLCMs of the 6 SSBN owning countries (I'll include India) could also be nuclear.<br /><br />Unfortunately all nuclear weapon owning countries are unlikely to accept UNSC or IAEA authority over their nuclear arsenals. And noting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons the "designated nuclear weapon states" have many legal exemptions from inspection of their nuclear facities and weapons.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Pete Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-10008253797303314722015-08-07T11:59:15.223+10:002015-08-07T11:59:15.223+10:00I agree Pete. It was the SSBNs which ensured that ...I agree Pete. It was the SSBNs which ensured that the Cold war remained 'cold' despite numerous provocations and are called the deterrent, not without reason. The alarming thing is the covert nuclear tipped missiles with potentially unstable and aggressive regimes like Pakistan, Iran, North Korea and Israel that constitute the real threat to world peace. <br /><br />While these are not going to go away, perhaps the more stable powers can convince them to make their capability transparent and thereby less dangerous. This could perhaps be done through the UNSC or some such body.subdriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07358975709527829678noreply@blogger.com