tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post2913713469298543519..comments2024-03-30T00:14:23.992+11:00Comments on Submarine Matters & Australian Nuclear Weapons: Echo Voyager & Russian LDUUVs as Intelligence Gatherers & Propulsion OptionsPete2http://www.blogger.com/profile/06134037393078707072noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-69530884057964804742016-03-20T17:45:07.086+11:002016-03-20T17:45:07.086+11:00Hi Ztev [at 20/3/16 3:33 PM]
What you describe is...Hi Ztev [at 20/3/16 3:33 PM]<br /><br />What you describe is also part of SeaWeb database building. See my response to KQN immediately above.<br /><br />I would say those countries with the closest access to the US submarine combat system (the AN/BYG-1) will have the best access to SeaWeb. Other than the US itself, Australia and the UK (Cold War to the present day) probably have the best access.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-57456915439836055542016-03-20T17:38:05.530+11:002016-03-20T17:38:05.530+11:00Hi KQN [at 20/3/16 9:47 AM]
Where you are thinkin...Hi KQN [at 20/3/16 9:47 AM]<br /><br />Where you are thinking along the lines "future SSK needs to seamlessly works within a networked environment including Autralian owned as well as friendly LDUUVs. I wonder how those system engineering requirements are duly reflected."<br /><br />This is the monumental Western (mainly US) SeaWeb (sensor-database system) which has developed since the 1950s. It was initially constructed (including SOSUS) against the Soviet sub target and now also includes the Chinese and Noorth Korean sub target. There are many more fixed and mobile sensor modes in SeaWeb probably coinciding with with the Five Eyes alliance, as well as some nations in NATO and most trusted Asian navies, including Singapore and Japan.<br /><br />Fore the most comprehensive open source information on SeaWeb put SeaWeb in Submarine Matters website's upper left search box and you'll sea about 7 articles.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-32322419001538356942016-03-20T15:33:06.601+11:002016-03-20T15:33:06.601+11:00One of the intelligence gathering missions of exi...One of the intelligence gathering missions of existing submarines is to record the underwater noise signatures of various military and civilian and quasi civilian vessels. This could be why the RAAF does surface reconnaissance in East asian waters which may coincide with an underwater mission by the RAN. The resulting data allows intelligence analysts to stitch together a broad tapestry of visual and noise profiles for storing in digital libraries.<br />LUDDVs seem ideal for such missionsZtev Konradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06553128132098513643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-61203394274213716442016-03-20T09:47:50.204+11:002016-03-20T09:47:50.204+11:00Pete,
Then a future SSK needs to seamlessly works ...Pete,<br />Then a future SSK needs to seamlessly works within a networked environment including Asutralian owned as well as friendly LDUUVs. I wonder how those system engineering requirements are duly reflected. It could be a make or break differentiator.<br />KQNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-22044002800140890902016-03-18T12:52:15.315+11:002016-03-18T12:52:15.315+11:00Hi KQN
I argue much the same thing proposing &quo...Hi KQN<br /><br />I argue much the same thing proposing "large ...UUVs launched from northern Australia" in http://gentleseas.blogspot.com.au/2016/03/mid-life-upgrade-of-collins-class-real.html of March 7, 2016.<br /><br />Yes Australia is intending to buy large, unarmed, Triton UAVs and in the longer term maybe armed Reaper UAVs.<br /><br />USVs (surface) may be less viable.<br /><br />When Bryan Clark visited Adelaide, Australia in 2015 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-22/australia-next-submarine-fleet-obsolete-due-to-drone-warfare/6488618 he may have talked to Australian industry and potential LDUUV customers about LDUUVs many benefits.<br /><br />Shore launcing UUVs or air dropping, ship launching, sub piggy backing or sub towing LDUUVs are all options.<br /><br />Australia may return to the viable number of 6 SSKs and 6 LDUUVs instead of the dubious 12 (political claims) of 12 SSKs.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-14086388172134300622016-03-18T05:23:56.905+11:002016-03-18T05:23:56.905+11:00Given the Australian submarine program will not se...Given the Australian submarine program will not see the daylight until 2025 and it s supposed to last for another 30 years, should there be a much greater emphasis on drones. After all, whether on land, in the air or under water, the wars of the drones are coming.<br />KQNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-17575880603394503682016-03-17T13:18:36.164+11:002016-03-17T13:18:36.164+11:00Hi Anonymous [at 17/3/16 10:29AM]
Yes part of Rus...Hi Anonymous [at 17/3/16 10:29AM]<br /><br />Yes part of Russia's Klavesin-1R (or larger) LDUUV's job may be pursuit and sound signature collection from Western SSKs, not to mention against Western SSNs, SSGNs and SSBNs.<br /><br />Operating from:<br /><br />- Russia's Pacific Fleet (Kamchatka) Russia's Klavesin-1R may intercept South Korean 209s and 214s and Japanese Oyashios and Soryus.<br /><br />- after Collins SSKs would require a Russian Delta IV (BS-64 Podmoskovye?) mothering a Klavesin-1R to bridge the long distances involved.<br /><br />- From Tartus, Syria, Russia's Klavesin-1R could intercept many types of Mediterranian SSKs including nuclear armed Israeli Dolphins (from Haifa) <br /><br />- out of Russia's Northern and Baltic Fleet bases Russia's Klavesin-1R could intercept many Western SSKs and UK SSBNs (exiting Faslane Scotland).<br /><br />So Russia's LDUUV companies have a bright future. I'll turn the above into an article some time.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Pete Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-33744877314846370562016-03-17T10:29:05.094+11:002016-03-17T10:29:05.094+11:00Surely the Echo Voyager is the US solution to mana...Surely the Echo Voyager is the US solution to managing the menace of quiet diesel subs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-74246510618230388962016-03-16T17:24:48.403+11:002016-03-16T17:24:48.403+11:002 masts at 1:40. You might be right.2 masts at 1:40. You might be right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19245896.post-24579933219406881392016-03-16T13:10:34.195+11:002016-03-16T13:10:34.195+11:00Hi Anonymous
Thanks for your comment, but I don&#...Hi Anonymous<br /><br />Thanks for your comment, but I don't see a clear depiction to a snorkel. How many mins:secs in do you see it?<br /><br />If you see two could one be the Antenna and the other a Periscope?<br /><br />Yes another advantage of being unmanned is greater scope to have individual pressure hulls dedicated to particular systems.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624742078679760819noreply@blogger.com