/Kjell kindly provided comments on Feb 27, 2021 concerning the four TKMS Type 212CD submarines Norway MAY buy from TKMS.
/Kjell's comments are supported by this Norwegian link dated Sep 11, 2018, which is easily (right-click mouse) translated.
Norway and TKMS signed an MoU for the Type 212CD subs in February 2017. See mentions of Norway 212CD here .
But in this 212CD project Norway wants to avoid the low industrial content level it suffered in Norway's purchase of six TKMS Type 210 Ula submarines in the 1980s. Type 210s are a specialised design only ever exported to Norway.
Within a more than US$5 Billion Norwegian Type 212CD purchase Norway wants a Norwegian industrial content (aka "cooperation") of around 75%. This is equivalent to more than US$3.5 Billion.
Norway is waiting for TKMS to settle on the 75% content/cooperation. 75% likely includes a Norwegian designed combat system [eg. weapons, sensors, computer terminals-data storage]. In April 2020 Norway rejected a third TKMS offer.
As at February 2021 a formal Norway-TKMS contract (more binding than an MoU) had not been signed.
After the contract is signed it will still take 8 years to deliver the first 212CD to Norway. So Norway may need a life extension for its six Type 210s. [Pete suspects one of those 210s may need to be decommissioned and then cannibalized for spare parts].
Hi Pete,
ReplyDeleteA bit off the topic, it seems that the Polish submarine issue does have its problems.
/Kjell
Hi /Kjell [at Mar 3, 2021, 2:35:00 PM]. Also to SAAB Adelaide looking at my website :)
ReplyDeleteThanks /Kjell for https://www.defence24.pl/pomostowa-orka-wpadla-na-mine-fiasko-programu-za-miliardy-komentarz on the deal for Sweden transferring 2 x A17 Södermanland subs to the Polish Navy falling through.
After all your help over the years I always feel guilty that I'm so negative about any prospect for a Saab-Kockums "Collin II" for the Australian Navy.
Basically when Sweden (in hindsight made the major error) of selling Kockums to Germany, in 1999, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Kockums#History
this caused huge damage to Swedish submarine building, development and ability so sell. A Swedish Kockums could have sold 4 x A26 to Singapore (by now) but not a German owned Kockums.
With very little new submarine building momentum/record in 20 years eg. Sweden not even finishing 2 x A26s for the Swedish Navy.
This makes Sweden too much of an industrial-base risk for a customer to build 12 large subs for Australia, in my view.
Regards
Pete