- Agosta SSKs (see below)
- Rubis nuclear powered attack subs (SSNs)
- soon to be launched Barracuda SSNs, and
- other non-DCNS submarine types if they are fitted with the SUBTICS combat system.
- Australia's future Shortfin SSKs will use a US Combat System, US missiles and torpedos and
probably British mines.
In future one might expect:
- submarine launched Exocets to have a land attack capability like the surface launched Exocet
MM40 Block 3s or
- will another much longer ranged French missile, the MdCN be relied on for submarine launched
land attack?
Youtube A. From NavyRecognition, uploaded April 5, 2012. It demonstratrates the SUBTICS (Submarine Tactical Integrated Combat System). The sub is using an Exocet SM39 anti-ship missile (see youtube below) and a torpedo to sink a landing helicopter dock (LHD).
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Youtube B. Real footage of an Exocet SM39 missile. The uniforms look Pakistani Navy(?). Hence the submarine is an Agosta - with a narrower bow than a Scorpene.
- The SM39 (submarine-launched) Exocet (B2 Mod 2) is housed inside a water-tight launcher capsule. The capsule is ejected from the submarine's torpedo tube at a substantial depth, which makes it particularly suitable for discreet submarine operations. On leaving the water, the capsule splits and drops away (31 seconds into the youtube) and the missile's motor is ignited.
Pete
Pete
Hi Pete,
ReplyDeleteIt looks like according the Diplomat Magazine, Pakistan is finally going to be getting their Chinese made SSK Submarines by 2028.
China to Supply Pakistan With 8 New Stealth Attack Submarines by 2028
http://thediplomat.com/2016/08/china-to-supply-pakistan-with-8-new-stealth-attack-submarines-by-2028/
Thanks Nicky
ReplyDeleteI'll do Pakistan in my article today.
Regards
Pete
I'll publish Pakistan's Future 8 Chinese Designed Submarines tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteThe article has been getting longer and I've thrown in a nuclear tipped Babur missile.
Pete
Hi Pete,
ReplyDeleteNot a problem. What do you think of Pakistan buying submarines from China.
Hi Pete,
ReplyDeleteCheck this article out from war is boring
The U.S. Navy Is Growing More Concerned About Russian and Chinese Submarines
https://warisboring.com/the-u-s-navy-is-growing-more-concerned-about-russian-and-chinese-submarines-3da20abd3ee4#.6hlg2udx8
The Exocet block 3 range of 180km is short and is only suitable for coastal land attacks at a pinch. Its warhead of 165kg is quite small to be effective against hardened targets. Given the range, it likely does not have a sophisticated terrain mapping following guidance. For all likelihood, you will want to use the MdcN for land attacks.
ReplyDeleteKQN
Hi Nicky [at 1/9/16 2:05 AM}
ReplyDeleteThanks for https://warisboring.com/the-u-s-navy-is-growing-more-concerned-about-russian-and-chinese-submarines-3da20abd3ee4#.6hlg2udx8
Its points about torpedos being the main, decades old, back-breaking threat to US carriers is well established.
The article appears to be a vehicle for the field and build more US SSNs numbers game debate.
Regards
Pete
Thanks KQN [at 1/9/16 11:51 AM]
ReplyDeleteYour comments look accurate on the Exocet block 3 being of too short a range, small of warhead, and wrong of guidance, for land attack.
So yes the much longer range and purpose built MdCN* looks like the prime land attack missile to go with French designed ships and submarines. There is a US parallel in the Harpoon mainly doing anti-shipping and Tomahawk (currently specialised) for land attack.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Shadow#Missile_de_Croisi.C3.A8re_Naval
Regards
Pete
Hi!
ReplyDeleteAny idea why the need for exocet sm39 when they already have torpedoes? Can't the torpedoes do the job already? :) Thanks!
Hi Leon Fernandez
ReplyDeleteFrench built Exocets and US built Harpoon anti-ship missiles travel around 10 times longer and 10 times faster than torpedos.
The main disadvantage with missiles is that that reveal the launching submarine's position, unlike torpedos.
Regards
Pete